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Deathway: Tell me what’s new
with the band. I know you guys have recently released
a new 5-song. How are things going after that?
Ralph Haynes (Guitar):
Yes we have a new demo that we recorded in October.
We finally finished it and had it ready around the middle
of December. It is available for purchase at the nearest
Ending's Edge show.
DW: Right on, can you give me
a brief background of how you guys formed?
RH: Well, briefly, right after
Hurricane Ivan, Josh and I were in a band called Advocate,
who were on hiatus. We started playing guitar together
and decided to start a new band. We picked up Corey
(Bass), who knew our drummer Breeze. Then we had a little
trouble finding a singer for a while until my little
sister told me that her Spanish teacher was actually
a pretty decent singer, so we gave him a call and a
year later we’re the band you see. And that’s
a pretty brief summary.
DW: Why do you play music?
Josh Apple (Guitar): It’s
a fun creative outlet. I mean, it's cool to be able
to create something so multi-faceted and then be able
to step back and be like, “Hey! I was a part of
that," and have something to say that’s supported
by something more than prose or poetry, but by the way
you can put it all together to communicate with an audience.
RH: Also, it’s a gift that we’ve
been given, and it is a way to get out emotion—but
it’s also a way to give back to God for the ability
DW: What are some of your influences?
JM: Nothing collectively;
we all have very eclectic tastes. Like Josh has a shrine
to a pair of 311 underwear in his closet. Ralph really
likes Yanni (everyone laughs uncomfortably). I really
like Silverchair and the Used, and I love the new Thrice
album a lot.
RH: A lot of Tooth & Nail bands,
especially here recently, Underoath, Dead Poetic, Emery,
those kinds of bands.
JA: The new P.O.D. CD is amazing.
Corey Dull: I listen to
a lot harder bands like Soilwork, Machinehead, Pantera,
stuff like that.
DW: So I can tell that you guys have
a wide variety of influences to work with, which is
a lot better than everyone coming from the same direction.
Last night, I was watching the Grammy’s, and I
watched as Paul McCartney and U2 played classics that
millions of people have loved and connected with. Do
you guys feel that people connect with your music?
RH: I would hope that
people will actually take the time to figure out what
our lyrics are and what we have to say. Hopefully, even
if it's one or two people, they will dig a little deeper
and get what the song’s saying.
JA: I think, more than anything, people
can tell that we’re into it, you know. We’re
not up there for image or show, but when we’re
on stage it’s kind of our own little world. We
hope people realize that we’re doing this because
we actually really like the music we play.
DW: Do you guys ever feel like heroes
or something more than the “average Joe”
when you’re on stage?
JM: Until I go back to
JA: Yeah, until real life kicks back
CD: I would just say on stage you go
into your own little world.
RH: I wouldn’t say we're heroes,
but it's like for those 30-45 minutes everything else
just goes away.
JM: Everyone is looking for significance,
and while you have a platform like that you feel significant
for creating and playing your art.
JA: there’s definitely a sense
of pride in it.
DW: As people, not necessarily as musicians,
when are you happiest?
JA: Just when you forget
about everything. There can be different times, but
for me music can help me get lost in what I’m
doing and forget the outside world.
RH: When things are simple, like it
was when you were a kid, never worrying about anything—just
eating and sleeping. When things break down to simplicity,
DW: Who are some of your heroes outside
of music, artistically, politically, etc.?
JM: I really appreciate
Gandhi; I’ve read a lot of his stuff and have
come to like him a lot. I have a friend named Jeremiah
Davis; he works at a home for sexually abused kids.
It’s like the last stop before they go to crazy
houses. They try to rehabilitate them. I really respect
him. Mike Rollwagen, my high school Bible teacher, is
as good as they come.
DW: Do you guys believe that there
is such a thing as a separation beyween Christian and
secular music, or is that just something the industry
has made up?
JA: Definitely to the
outside world the lines are getting blurred. There’s
a certain group of people in churches that want things
that way. In reality, everything should revolve around
the heart of whoever is singing or creating and what
they have to say.
DW: So you feel it should not be that
JM: The lines aren’t
as clear as everyone thinks. Like that new Thrice album.
They are on a secular label, and the singer is very
obvious that, “This is what I have to say,"
and its obviously Christian. The lines aren’t
RH: “Christian” music has
its place. There are definitely times when you need
defined whole-hearted Christ-centered music.
DW: What do you guys think is better
for our culture at the moment: something that is clear-cut
Christian or something that is subversive and “spiritual?"
JA: I know that, to a degree, being
straight-up is good. So many people take things different
ways, and many artists encourage that. I don’t
like that, you know. There was a specific design in
mind when you wrote the song. There is a definitive
truth. We can’t just all go our own way and meet
at the end, because there will be that moment of accountability
where it's no longer living in harmony no matter what,
because the Bible is very clear that Satan is the ruler
of this world. If you aren’t open about what you
believe, then what’s the point of doing it? I
don’t think anyone should be obnoxious, but at
the same time you should be honest.
DW: What are you feelings on the current
JM: I think the Church
is consumed with fear. A group came from Mexico looking
to perform a skit, just like we [America] do all over
the world, and a local church would not allow them to
perform because they were afraid of false doctrine.
The Church isn’t out conquering anything; we’re
sitting in our little den trying to stay safe and keep
our kids conformed instead of doing something significant.
JA: I don’t want
to expect church to be perfect, because I know that
no one is, and anytime you have anyone in leadership
there’s going to be fallacies; however it has
been proven time after time that God uses people who
screw up royally to reach His perfect end.
DW: Just one more question: What do
the quotes, “to die is gain” and “dead
to this world" mean to you personally?
JA: I think for me personally,
to be dead to this world means that we’re not
necessarily separated from the world, but we are called
to a higher standard of not getting caught up in the
things of this world. We should live our lives with
the same self-contentment as other people, because it’s
all about relationships, more than what we do. We should
get to know Christ, be a part of him, and we will live
better lives. When you’re dead to this world you
leave the ideologies of greed and self-fulfillment and
gravitate towards, you know, I don’t really understand
this, but it is a better way.
DW: Thanks and good luck to you guys.
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